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. a housing cyclone that hollowed out more homes that hurricane katrina and sandy combined. the very definition of disaster needs broadening. we need to recapture the initial horror created by those single natural disaster and put it toward the relief of our on going national disasters. the energy gathered by gale force winds has the power to focus our public attention. superstorm sandy may help the electorate focus in the few days that remain in the 2012 presidential campaign. our vote on tuesday will be for a disaster manager and chief taking charge of a country in an economic state of emergency, building a society that leaves all of us more prepared for disaster. at my table is ari melber, msnbc contributor. norry tan dan, kate dawson and david rodi, a reuters columnist and contributor for the atlantic. thank you all for being here. >> i want to start with you. the article, the piece you wrote was about the inequalities that have been revealed in the con te context of sandy. >> i am one of the privileged new yorkers. there has always been divisions in the city but this storm broug
kind of initial reaction we got after katrina, 2005. i'm not, again not comparing the gravity of the two event but i am comparing the immediate official response over the handling of these events. what i'm also noting is the distinct difference in the media coverage of 2005 versus this storm in 2012. whether it will be an issue a few days from now. pat? >> it could be. what we are seeing, now that the mayor's moment of let them eat cake pass, with the marathon and by the way, i have yet to see him in staten island. >> he has not been there yet. >> doesn't it tell you everything, the people you interviewed said. there is a political effort to run the clock out. with the media, like they've done on libya. just like they've hidden the truth about libya, hide the truth about this in the service of obama's campaign. let's get it straight. >> fox was the first camera crew to go to staten island to show this and others in the media have gone. you can't ignore it. >> there is a disconnect, the politician want to say everything is okay. rereality is this afternoon. what will they do, h
louisiana. they say they know a thing or two about storm damage in the wake of katrina and isaac. allowed and deadly -- a loud, deadly explosion rocked an indianapolis neighborhood over the weekend. investigators are trying to figure out how it happened. that is all ahead on "studio b" but first, the bombshell resignation of the c.i.a. director, general petraeus, blind sided members of congress. high ranking lawmakers are asking why they had no heads-up. the c.i.a. chief stepped down on friday after investigator say they found out about the affair with his biographer and a short timing a, fox confirmed the investigators found classified information on her computer but there wassing in to indicate general petraeus was the source, sources tell fox the f.b.i. uncovered the relationship while, looking into threating e-mails which general petraeus' mistress sent to this woman, we are told she a long-term family friend of general petraeus. the f.b.i. confronted general petraeus about affair some time in the last six weeks and, now, lawmakers of congressional intelligence committees will hold me
, the tales it could tell. listen to this, one that has gone back and forth from louisiana, katrina, and new york for 9/11 and back. now back again the brotherhood of firefighters that is straight ahead. >> those are two cities that share tragedy, have tragedy in common. katrina down there. 9/11 up here. now another one with sandy. so that -- the bond, the fire truck, represents that. >>> also, we'll lighten the mood a little bit in "the skinny," she says, maybe not too much. she is going to be fine. talking about brooke burke from abc's "dancing with the stars," when the word cancer is involved we'll have to send her our very best thoughts and warm wishes. details of her condition. she is going to be okay the important thing. stay tuned for details coming up on that in "the skinny". >> what her doctors are telling her. our prayers and thoughts go out to her and her family. first, victims and relatives of those who died were in the courtroom as a judge reaffirmed that jared loughner would never again be a free man. >>> part of a plea deal, loughner was sentenced to seven consecutive life ter
through hurricane katrina know a thing or two about getting back on your feet. so, hundreds of them packed up and drove east to staten island, new york, to help those recovering from superstorm sandy. they say they're just returning the kindness that so many new yorkers showed them in their time of need. dan bowens of wnyw has more. >> new york, staten island, sandy ruined hundreds of homes and we found volunteers working hard to pick up the pieces. >> and the water height is where this is. >> flood waters reached above the windows inside randy's house and several people he didn't know helped him clear out the debris. >> touching, heart warming is not near enough a ward to describe how you feel when these things are going on. and people tyke time out of their life. >> and the neighbor was feeling overwelcomed, debris everywhere in the back yard and then this group just showed up and started cleaning. >> without the 25 hands with me, i wouldn't be able to do anything. >> among the hundreds of workers and volunteers, who come to staten island today and there are hundreds assisting with the c
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oceanic and not mr. association, the costliest storms to hit katrina by one at funk shot. take, about 30 billion. andrew in 90 to about 36.5 billion. wilma in 2005, i've been 18 billion, charlie indo for 15 billion, reader, frances and jeanne all and hurricane damage. in your view, does the national flood insurance program currently structured work? >> i think it does work. it does help protect consumers from an uninsurable event in the private arcade. the program was created in 1968 was the result created because the private market could not accurately and in suitably underrate the insurance risk. so what was happening was people were completely without flood insurance protection. so is happening in the 60s and 50s as american citizens were being flooded and the only recourse that she had was federal disaster assistance after the fact. so the program was created to have people pay into a program and be prepared for storm and a flood event before it happened. now, it certainly could use improvement. you know, there are critics out there whose fate is is too subsidized by the federal gove
at home, new york governor andrew cuomo calls superstorm sandy more impactful than hurricane katrina. now both new york and new jersey are asking for a combined total of more than $71 billion in federal aid. in new york, the money would pay not only for cleanup and recovery, it would also be used to try and limit damage for future storms. new jersey which saw heavy damage to its transit system and shoreline suffered nearly $30 billion in losses. >>> meanwhile, new jersey governor christie has now filed papers seeking re-election. >>> and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins. he's tracking that weather channel forecast. good morning to you, bill. >> sensitive topic when you start comparing storms to katrina and all these. >> it does. >> it's like any big event. >> absolutely. >> yeah, over 1,000 people died and monetarily there's issued. every storm is different as we learned with sandy and all the other big hurricanes that have hit this country. we're not dealing with anything too bad today. if you have travel plans on the east coast, pay at
and not a problem and that was the same kind of initial reaction we got after katrina, 2005, i'm not again, not comparing the gravity of the two events, but comparing the immediate initial response over the handling of this event and what i'm noting is the distinct difference in the coverage of 2005 versus this storm in 2012. and whether it's going to be an issue a few days from know you. >> it could be. what we're seeing now that the mayor's moment of let them eat cake, passed, the marathon. i've yet to see him in staten island. >> neil: i don't know that he's been there yet. >> that's interesting. doesn't that tell you everything that your two people you listened and other lady you interviewed said. the fact of the matter is, there is a political effort to run the clock out and with the media just like they've done on libya, just like they've hidden the truth about libya, it's the hide the truth about this and the service of obama's campaign of the let's get it straight. the president-- >> and the first to take camera crews to go to staten island and show it, fox was. and other media glo
. we had katrina years ago. there are things that will disrupt the economy. 9/11 was an extraordinary case. but we have a very resilient economy. we've had one for hundreds of years. and the fact that they can't get along for the month of january is not going to torpedo the economy. >> so i want to make clear, he wants to see a deal made. but he says, you have to be willing to go past december 31st. if you need to, you have to make every attempt to reach a deal. but he says, quote, don't roll over and give away the store. he sees the president in his second term being able to hold a very hard line. bottom line, you know where he stands on taxes. he wants them much higher. >> talking about taxes, how much higher? >> that's the question, getting specifics. i asked him that on capital gains taxes, money made off of investment, but also on income taxes for regular people. take a listen. >> are you saying there's no taxation level that's too high? whether it's capital gains or investments or income? >> we certainly prospered with capital gains rates, more than double what they are currentl
katrina are inspiring one high school to come to the aid of hurricane sandy victims. help is on the way, and that's the message sent by errol heights students and faculty. the group is on a mission to send this semi-trailer stocked withed food, blankets and other helpful items. well, i'm lynn berry. this is "early today," just your first stop of the day today on your nbc station. >>> well, a dangerous fire forced officials to evacuate an entire town. close to 1,000 people received orders to abandon their homes. a chemical fire erupted from this derailed train car and then began leaking dangerous fumes. the evacuation order is still in effect until that fire burns out. >>> all right. new images show one animal's odd connection to halloween. a massachusetts fisherman caught this female lobster last week. look there. see? scientists say the crustacean, she is half orange, she's half black. the crustacean's split coloring happens every 50 to 100 million lobsters. that orange and black is the most common color combination. interesting. >>> well, class was in session when a drunken intruder b
information on your show some several weeks ago. that might be a beginning. >> let's bring in katrina vanden heuvel. i just find that comment on sunday by john mccain outrageous. why is he attacking susan rice like that? >> there are a number of reasons. i think he's trying to stay relevant as you said. i think this is a political hit job against the president. that's who they are aiming at. i think they are doing the fox and the fox fuelled hysteria about the attacks in benghazi. but this reminds me of the republican flight from reality, the post truth politics mitt romney engaged in. he would travel around the country saying president obama did an apology tour traveling the world. this guy, senator mccain, keeps talking about the danger o of america's light footprint. if you want to deal with sub tans and not just the calls mccain has made about weakness and light footprint, we need to look squarely at u.s. foreign policy in the region and what john mccain and lindsey graham are doing is they are distracting us from confronting the extraordinary challenges we face in north africa and the m
they are clarifying. do you think fema has done a better response with this disaster as it did to katrina, tammy i'll start with you? >> i think years have gone by unlike l.a. earthquakes and there is no warning i think what it shows that a bureaucracy is not going to perform well. we knew this was coming. we knew the first weekend they ran out of the water and unprepared. the people of staten island are still living in a disaster area. they pointed to all the money they spent that is accomplishment. they aren't looking at results. so i don't think this is -- there has been a lot of activity but is the activity actually contributing to making people's lives better wioflt say that the people who are living on staten island and people still without power would not think they are in the best and greatest city of the world and paying the highest taxes in the country. >> given what we have seen in mississippi, i was down there right afterwards, it's a lot better than it was then. i think they actually did do a pretty reasonable job but the issue is what is going to happen in the recovery phase. are the
on the show during katrina a long island church sent aid to louisiana and now the favor is being returned. >> and millions spent to it set up food stamp application sites. wait until you hear how much. based on this chart ? don't rush into it, i'm not looking for the fastest answer. obviously verizon. okay, i have a different chart. going that way, does that make a difference ? look at verizon. it's so much more than the other ones. so what if we just changed the format altogether ? isn't that the exact same thing ? it's pretty clear. still sticking with verizon. verizon. more 4g lte coverage than all other networks combined. aww, nowell, i'll do the shoppi. if you do the shipping. shipping's a hassle. i'll go to the mall. hey. hi. you know, holiday shipping's easy with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service. if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for low flat rate. yea, i know. oh, you're good. good luck! priority mail flat rate boxes. online pricing starts at $5.15. only from the postal service. can you help me with something? nope! good talk. [ male announcer ] or
in the wake of 9/11. later it was returned to louisiana to help with hurricane katrina. one firefighter said they share a bond. it's all about protecting. another area that took the brunt of hurricane sandy is new york staten island. it flooded out communities and hundreds are still living in shelters with thousands more without electricity. seth doane met with some residents who are finding comfort in the little things. >> reporter: john shoveled his front walkway just like he does after every snowstorm except he's no longer living in his home. what did you lose here? >> everything on the first floor, living room, dining room. entire basement. >> all flooded? >> all flooded. >> reporter: he has no electricity, no hot water and even had to borrow his neighbor's shovel. >> a little break. a little normal. >> normal to do something like shoveling. >> right. yeah. it feels good. >> reporter: just before a blanket of snow covered up sandy's mess we found eric standing on what used to be his house. >> you're here picking up, you're looking through things. how do you begin, where do you start? >>
. they know first hand about the struggles that are in this community. hurricane katrina victims drove up from louisiana. >> you all came to us in our dire need. >> i was in line 7 years ago lined up getting more. it was nice to give back. >> the outpouring of love and support and help it is so overwhelming. >> lower receipt and her family lost their home but they pulled knees photos from the rebel. they haven't lost their faith. >> nothing else ex security family and love and memories. >> i love this kid. >> brings tears to my eyes. >> kids always know just how to put it. did you see that big pot of jambalaya? mmm, mmm. a terrifying scene. a deadly explosion rips through the neighborhood forcing hundreds of people to run from their home. >> military bribes getting a big gift for their big day. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. can you start the day the way you want? can orencia help? could your "i want" become "i can"? talk to youdoctor. orencia reduces many ra symptoms like pain,
at the singer theater before katrina and called her up onstage during, close to mother's day and gave her are the keys to the car. it was a great moment. so many tears from the audience and from her. a really good moment. >> what did she say? >> speechless. the thank you and love. here's a woman who never asked me for a dime. never asked me for a dime, but as a little boy, watching all that she had gone through i wanted to do everything i could to take care of her, make sure she had the best life she could and because of my audience, god bless them, i was able to do that. >> talk about money, fame, love, and oprah. >> okay. >> maybe they're all linked together? >> all together. all together. >>> jur a cute little thing. >> get your hands off me. >> feisty. who do you think you're talking to old lady? >> you don't know me. i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. get the hell off the table. >> i'm big sal. and what big sal wants big sal gets. >> i guess you never heard that i am honey madea. >> a franchise, amazing franchise. >> joy and horror. that's -- that's just about right, piers. yea
. >> well, i mean, you know, we had hurricane sandy which disrupted the economy for a period. we had katrina many years ago. things will disrupt the economy. i mean, 9/11 was extraordinary case. but we have a very resilient economy. we had one for hundreds of years and the fact that they can't get along for the month of january is not going to torpedo the economy. >> buffett also told me that the president and congress need to make every attempt possible to reach a compromise and he also said that does not mean that qua yoet roll over and give away the store." again, he wants to see the president take a hard line here. the big part of these negotiate azs is taxes on the wealthy. should tax rates increase or not. we ask buffet for specifics when it comes to taxes, especially taxes on investments or capital gains taxes. here's what he told us. >> we certainly, we certainly prosperred with capital gains rates more than double what they are currently. >> we'd be fine with 30% capital gains. >> sure. >> what about income tax? >> income taxes as high as 90% during my lifetime. now, very few people
is looking like hurricane katrina in one key respect and that is the price tag. steve liesman joins us now with more. billions and billions more. >> yeah. becky, the cost of sandy keeps rise and while it has not risen to the price tag of katrina, as the rubble is removed and the costs are tallied, the two storms are looking similar in the tale of devastation they tell. aid will arrive on a city focused on cutting spending. federal emergency money is subject to automatic cuts if we get over the cliff. this is the latest data putting at $70 billion to $90 billion. yesterday governor cuomo came out with this number. we know that includes what mayor bloomberg said was 19 billion. add that to what governor christie said of 29 billion. >> 360 million? >> for connecticut. >> and yesterday a company that we've been following since the beginning practically doubled their estimates of insured losses. originally 7 to 15. now 16 to 22. what i cannot tell you folks is whether or not the insured losses are included in the new york and new jersey governor statements. it could be 70 billion. governor cuom
days after the hurricane hit. ap says power restorations took longer after hurricanes katrina, wilma and ike, which does sound surprising. >> not really. you have to understand, it's more built up. you're putting telephone poles in by hand basically. gloria went through long island in '85. it took three weeks to get power back there. >>> we are having a nice weekend. i added a couple of high clouds on sunday. other than that, that's it. this is a beautiful shot from our weather cam. you can see the washington monument, clear skies. sun is going down. going to get chilly now. 49 at national, but everybody else in the low to mid 40's already. pressure is steady. and really looking at a crisp night. breezes will pick up a little bit later on tonight. so if you're headed out, it is friday after all. if you're going to be out late, make sure you remember the coat. we'll take you out west for just a minute, because it's just raining from l.a., almost san diego to seattle and i point this out because that's where it's going to be stormy all weekend, which is one reason we're going to enjoy
of hurricane katrina, senator mary landrieu joins us next. >>> apple sold 3 million ipads in the last three days but not all are ipad minis and shares of apple are near bear territory. you have a buy rating on the stock. brian, always good to see you. in terms of the release, the optics for apple in terms of interpreting news these days has been glass half full. when the release came out and they released a combined number and in other words ipad mini plus ipad sales, i almost felt like they were trying to hide something. was the number a good one? >> it's a great number because it is a doubling if you look at ipad mini and fourth generation from march numbers of wi-fi from third generation which was 1.5. this was not a wi-fi and cellular launch which we saw in march, this is wi-fi only. second thing is ipad mini is significantly supply constrai d constrained. 60% of the stores we contacted were sold out. >> at the same time isn't it important for you as an analyst to understand what exactly that mix is. it makes a big difference when it comes to margins. ipad mini is a different margin th
their. we have a record of helping people out in those disasters. katrina, there were big mistakes made. there was a tremendous amount of money that was wasted down there. they had a request for $10 billion, i supported that. then, they wanted $58 billion. i asked for the plans. i want to see the spreadsheet, i want to see the support documents. i want to see the adding machine tape. if it is not that, i want to see the dart board. i found out the next morning when i got the email, when joshua bolton gave me the plan. in that was included 300,000 trailer houses in the original plan, 270,000 of which were back ordered. there were plans for medications of future disasters. there were opportunists in the katrina disaster, and we know there was $1.4 billion of that that was wasted with duplicates social security numbers. that is something, and experience of us who were there with katrina. i am asking the governors of the state to submit to congress a complete plan on not only were these resources need to go, but what kind of protections are there so they go the right place. that gets me a l
was in new orleans onstage at the singer theater before katrina and called her up onstage during, close to mother's day and gave her are the keys to the car. it was a great moment. so many tears from the audience and from her. a really good moment. >> what did she say? >> speechless. the thank you and love. here's a woman who never asked me for a dime. never asked me for a dime, but as a little boy, watching all that she had gone through i wanted to do everything i could to take care of her, make sure she had the best life she could and because of my audience, god bless them, i was able to do that. >> talk about money, fame, love, and oprah. >> okay. >> maybe they're all linked together? >> all together. all together. [ female announcer ] today, jason is here to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in his lower back. as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away
theater before katrina and called her up onstage during, close to mother's day and gave her are the keys to the car. it was a great moment. so many tears from the audience and from her. a really good moment. >> what did she say? >> speechless. just thank you and love. here's a woman who never asked me for a dime. never asked me for a dime, but as a little boy, watching all that she had gone through i wanted to do everything i could to take care of her, make sure she had the best life she could and because of my audience, god bless them, i was able to do that. >> talk about money, fame, love, and oprah. >> okay. >> maybe they're all linked together? >> all together. all together. from investing for the first time... to investing with knowledge. the potential of td ameritrade unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. to a world of super-connected intelligence. the potential of freescale unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absor
of hurricane katrina. that's trouble for roughly 100% of re-elected presidents since 1972. yes, it's enough to give you second thoughts about that second term. so is there anything the obama team can do to prevent this? now, as bill clinton might say. >> it depends upon what the meaning of the word "is" is. >> reporter: the fact is, if there is going to be a second-term scandal, its seeds were probably sewn in the first term. the watergate break-in, nixon's first term. the actual iran contra deal, reagan's first term. bill clinton's liaison with lewinsky, first term. the actual plame leaks, first term. so if the obama team was going to mess up, history suggests, they already did. maybe it's something that has made headlines already, but maybe not. remember, the lewinsky scandal didn't surface until 1998. maybe the obama administration will make its own history and avoid a second-term scandal. but if not, disney world may seem very appealing. you know, it was interesting, in the president's news conference, he said he was well aware of the history of presidential overreach in second terms. t
and in some respects, it was a natural process after hurricane katrina where they could start over again. the other places homeland where i think there is more choice. if you look at the results, it is amazing. but about a third of the kids in harlem are in this district. they went up dramatically when they started this process there. it was something like 28 out of 30, now it is about 16. not only did the charter school is almost outperformed everybody, but the public schools, which were 28, actually moved up significantly themselves. so i think those are two substantiation of models that could be developed. so in terms of difference of reforming and relinquishing, i think it is very important as an idea that needs development. that is where i would come down. >> i would have to agree that it is choice. for two reasons. there is a catalytic effect, if you will. going against an attrition or a system, if the college isn't getting applicants, he will either go out of business or there is a catalytic effect on the underperformers of having people be able to make choices with their kids, an
back to louisiana to help after hurricane katrina. the truck will now help in new york. >>> 11 minutes after 7:00 on this friday morning. increased efforts to battle a big problem in d.c. schools. students who don't show up. coming up next, details of one idea on the table to increase those numbers. >> plus, still recovering from an attack by the taliban. this teenager is at the center of a petition circulating around the world. we'll explain. >> as we head to the break, here's a live look outside. we'll get the latest weather and traffic from tucker and julie coming up next. we'll be right back. i t my coffe for the morning, i got my dunkin' k-cup packs for the rest of the day. only available at dunkin' donuts restaurants. america runs on dunkin' coffee.  i'm drinkin' a dunkin' latte. i'm in love with my dunkin' latte. it is a treat. they're packed with flavor. it's my kind of latte. try the simply delicious latte everyone can enjoy. america runs on dunkin'! >>> syrian refugees fleeing violation. 5,000 fled to neighboring turkey overnight and a group of
katrina where they could start over again. and while there's a lot of room for improvement of great things are happening. the other places harlem where i think there's now more choice in that little neighborhood. and if you look at the results, it's amazing. about a third of the kids in harlem in the third grade are in charter schools. but what's amazing is the harlem district went up, an and this is apples to apples, went up dramatically from when we started this intensive choice process there. now, it was something like 28 out of 32 district. now it's about 16th. and not only did the charter schools outperform almost everybody, but the public schools which were 28th actually moved up significantly themselves. so i think those are two situations of models that we should develop your i think what, down in new orleans between the reform and relinquishing, and portfolio i think are really important ideas that need developing. so that's were i would comment. >> i would agree that choice, and for two reasons. the catalytic effect on the system if you will, because going to get from a tertiary
almost never been recorded, is going to be in the tens of billions of dollars. it may rival katrina in terms of the need for recovery and infrastructure replacement as a result of that storm. fema has $12 billion in its account. if sequestration were to go through, the white house estimates that fema would lose about $878 million. at a time when fema emergency centers are being set up from rhode island all the way down to southern new jersey, these are centers where people who have lost their homes in some instances, lost their businesses, have lost equipment are now flooding into to try to get relief and help like any other natural disaster in the past. these are people who paid their taxes year in and year out and made sure that fema was there when the folks down in louisiana and mississippi were hit by katrina. fema is the agency which helps communities pay for police overtime, fire overtime, sanitation worker overtime. these are the folks that we always call on at times of emergency. yet sequestration, which this congress has failed to address, is now sitting out there really pu
of this particular super storm exceeds the cost of katrina in dollars. >> brian: you talk about residents, that's one challenge. what about businesses? people that live in business and try to live off their business? donna is being hugged by the president and has a inry in a that was destroyed. and guess what the insurance said? we only covered water that comes down. not that comes up. she asked the president for help. she joined us earlier. she's really disheartened. >> i was very excited and felt warm by the embrace thinking this is really going to happen. i'm going to get the help i need because he promised that. and it's been almost a month now and i've gotten no help and gotten nothing but no, you're not covered for this. no, you're not covered for that. and it's because of the way the storm hit and the water rising that i'm not covered for any contents in the entire business. i expected, when i was introduced to director of fema and the president told him to get me immediate help, i thought i was getting help from fema itself. not that i would have to go get a loan. and it's just greatly affect
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